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Finally decided to comment after years of lurking.

I’ve kept up with all of the posts on the “Political Navy SEAL.” I find it astonishing that SEALs tend to have largest group of loudmouths in the SOCOM community. I tried looking up Rangers, Deltas, and Green Berets, but I could not find a whole lot of publicized remarks or loud rants, etc.

So I’m wondering, why Navy SEALs in particular? A buddy of mine mentioned that it was likely because of how the media portrays them and therefore the organization attracts more individuals who like to bask in the limelight. But there sure have been a hell of a lot of movies, books, and TV shows in the past 25 years that have portrayed Rangers, Deltas, and SFs in very a good light (a light made even more radiant and beautiful by Michael Bay explosions and amazing Schwarzenegger one-liners).

So what’s the deal?

Maybe just an anomaly that can’t be explained? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

What’s your guys’ take? Something tells me y’all may have already tried answering this… I just can’t seem to find the blog post.


Maybe this should be looked at from a different angle. Global special forces units ridiculously over-classify everything they do with their affectations for secrecy, when really very little of what they do jeopardises either national security or future operations (though some stuff, especially cross-border operations, certainly deserves classification). Let the “operators” write. What are they going to say? Selection was uncomfortable, but lots of people make it through. Training was fun, but mostly variations on light infantry tactics, operations suffered from some staff officer’s meddling, and there’s a tight bond with your colleagues, except the ones who are jerks.

The people we should all be happy are not publishing tell-alls are the NORAD staff planners, EW technicians, procurement contracting clerks and systems administrators.


F.:

That was a very astute comment. I never heard it put quite so clearly and cogently. Good job.

My opinion on why the SEALs are such comparative big mouths is that is what the community as a whole wants, publicity, the more the better. The high ups want it because it means more money, personnel and power. The guys low down want it means more money, more fun training, more fun missions and, let this not be underestimated, more swooning chicks.


Looks like you’ve got a type in one of the links:

“explaining why they shot Obama…”

Agree with F’s post. All of those books that were listed above sounded like they would be re-hashes of selection and the camaraderie of team life. Nothing new.

And yes, I agree with Carl and think the whole thing is about chicks.


@ Don – Thanks for the heads up on the typo…


“Training was fun, but mostly variations on light infantry tactics”

It’s a curious thing; comments I’ve heard about SEAL on-ground tactics indicated their primary tactic is mass. Mass of men kicking doors of the same house, mass of bullets in the air. The little of what I saw them doing as demo for a camera (a breaking contact drill, for example) did fit with this.
I haven’t heard anything similar about other SF organisations.

In fact, what I heard about other SF units’ tactics was much more about the classic field craft skills (anything from training the sense of smell for night actions to extreme tests of patience and self-discipline).